You said that when we discussed these styles, and the reason people objected is because all-malt vs. not all-malt is an arbitrary and pointless distinction. As I said earlier, splitting by adjuncted or not leads to a very fun game of pure barley or not. You want to tell me that Heineken and Kronenbourg 1664 are not the same style?
My vote from the start has been that it should not be two styles, it should just be a single style called Pale Lager. However, if we are going to split off some of them, it should be at least a vaguely recognisable style.
sort of related sort of not any update on getting the meads taken off the beer style list since already listed under non-beer styles? or is this a difficult coding thing hence why its been like that since roll out? @services
Somehow, those 3 Mead substyles are listed in both Beer Styles and Other Styles in the Users Style Listings:
Mead - Melomel / Fruited
Mead - Braggot / Hopped
Mead - Metheglin / Spiced / Herbs
Of course, they should not appear as beer styles.
Also, those 3 FAMILY style are listed as regular styles in those other styles listing too:
CIDERS
MEADS
SAKE
They should not appear at all as styles.
Finally, Unknown / Will Be Classified shouldn’t count as a style at all and not be listed there, since it makes it nearly impossible for users to have ALL Rated Beer Styles (and it shouldn’t be considered a Beer Style…it could also be a Mead…Cider)
Note: To correct this, you would need to create a separate FAMILY STYLE (we already have 1.Beer, 2.Ciders & Perry, 3.Mead, 4.Sake and 5.Fruit Wine in the DB if i’m correct) especially to put that style in it, apart from other styles.
So, to whoever was actually implementing these changes, can we roll back the style to not have rice in the name or this sentence in the description please. And in future can we not implement changes to styles based solely on what Viper wants and instead have a discussion about them.
So you are saying we agreed to add those in Pale Lager - Intl / Premium? It had its own separate style for a short period of time and then it was removed…
If you want to start a discussion about changing the pale lager styles again, feel free to do so elsewhere. For now, we should return them to what was agreed upon initially.
I believe there is a code-acceptable method for both removing meads from beer styles and unknown / unclassified from these lists. I need to dig in deeper.
Ho do we differentiate? Looking at the Top50 lists there is no common guideline detectable. Is a Pale Ale - Belgian just a Pale Belgian Ale with modern hops?
Can you please update Pale Lager - North American etc. as requested above?
The idea is that Pale Ale - Belgian is a modern style APA using Belgian yeast (essentially the pale ale version of Belgian IPA), while Belgian Ale - Pale is a Belgian ale through and through.
I don’t get why they don’t change the links site-wide when they create a new format page… Everywhere on the site, there’s links that still redirect to the old pages instead of the new ones…
Nooo I thought we don’t want unknown reclassified as its annoying to list temporary styles, that should remain gone. since then everyone will show has having one missing style in a perfect world where things are properly bucketed
@joet just removed it of the style listing, I don’t want him to reintegrate it in the list…
I’m just telling to make it appear (as a NON-STYLE, without any statistics attached to it) after the real styles, so people could know at least that they have some reviews stuck in products classified as Unknown
@joet Please can you roll back this change. We have now had more than a month of this being wrong, when it took only a day for somebody to make it wrong in the first place.
