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Caveman Brewery (ratebeer.com)

Chelmsford Beer Festival seem to have gone out of their way to get resurrected brewery beers!

They have (as with Burton Town and Skinners) 4 on from Caveman at the Festival who are OOB on RB. A check on their FB shows a new Tap House opened 7/2/2022. The address is now given as:

40 Essex Road
Dartford
DA1 2AU

Same telephone number.

The beers on at Chelmsford are all those previously brewed.

Keppels Brewery (ratebeer.com)

And another OOB brewery on RB with a beer on at Chelmsford - Crow Bar (which was added new to RB end of May but brewery still retired). Their FB became active again October 2022.

This is under the proviso of RB ever working again…

The Ram Inn in Wandsworth is open again, but no longer assocated with SlyBeast (it is operated by Laine’s).

https://www.ratebeer.com/p/ram-inn-slybeast-brewing/98936/

If I were to rate it (it’s on the cusp of being good enough so not sure) would I reopen the old place and tidy up the name and association, or create an entirely new place?

I can see that it’s essentially a new business, but places change hands all the time and unless its entire soul has changed I wonder if its tidier to keep places under their old info?

Thoughts?

There is precedent for this. Greenwich Brew Pub started off with Makemake as in-house brewery and then changed to Crop. Main pub stayed the same so the brewery details were just updated.

However they have subsequently got rid of the brewing equipment (scrapped it despite offers to buy it!) so I closed it.

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The pub is open but isnt much to write home about and doesnt really need to be on the database so I am happy to leave closed. Thanks.

These beers are the same:

https://www.ratebeer.com/beer/roosters-variation-on-a-theme-mosaic/990915/

https://www.ratebeer.com/beer/roosters-variations-on-a-theme-mosaic/1048029/

The correct name is variation not variations.

These beers are the same:

https://www.ratebeer.com/beer/roosters-variation-on-a-theme-mosaic/990915/

https://www.ratebeer.com/beer/roosters-variations-on-a-theme-mosaic/1048029/

The correct name is variation not variations.

Fixed …

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It appears Backyard Brewhouse, Grasshopper and Warwickshire Beer Co are all part of the same group

52 Degrees Brewing there website for the group is below:

and their Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/52DegreesBrewing

Both show the logos for the three breweries.

Wilson’s of Warslow brewery is in Staffordshire rather than Derbyshire. The postcode is SK17 0JN

Hi guys,

Which region is the correct for Oban( Scotland)?

breweries are under Dunbartonshire, Argyll & Bute and the places under Highlands and Western Isles.

Argyll & Bite.

Bute. Obviously. Damn autocorrect!

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Yeah Argyll & Bute definitely seems more correct. Depending on what maps you look at of Scottish regions, that area can be included in the Highlands hence the confusion. I’ve edited the places so they too are in Argyll & Bute now just like the breweries, so should all be consistent.

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Unfortunately Lock 34 Brew Co. is no more.

https://www.ratebeer.com/brewers/lock-34-brew-co/28379/

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Thank you.
Similar problem with Isle of Arran. Breweries under Argyll & Bute and places under Ayrshire.
Cheers,
Alex.

This is a bit convoluted. Wiki says that Arran was historically in Buteshire, which than became part of the region of Strathclyde. Following the breakup of Strathclyde Arran is now in the Unitary Authority of North Ayrshire. None of these match the regions on RB!

Having looked back over the thread where it was decided how we’d break up Scotland for RB purposes, it looks like people felt there were too many historic counties or unitary authorities, and didn’t want to use the regions period (I think because no-one in Scotland agreed with them when they were in place).

It looks like we decided instead to split Scotland based on the Electoral and Valuation Boards (whatever they are), but then further subdivide the Orkney & Shetland one of those into two. Based on the Electoral and Valuation Boards, Arran should sit under Ayrshire on RB, because it’s part of the North Ayrshire unitary authority which comes under the Ayrshire Electoral & Valuation Board.

Details of the Electoral and Valuation Boards are on this Wiki page (you’ll need to scroll down a bit):

I can never believe how convoluted the history of local subdivisions is in the UK! But to summarise all that, Arran should be in Ayrshire on RB.

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Knew this would happen with Beer52, what with them brewing for themselves, etc, etc.

We have two entries for this;
https://www.ratebeer.com/beer/beer52-nostalgia-osorno/1132273/
and
https://www.ratebeer.com/beer/nostalgia-osorno/1130892/

I will add my review once it’s sorted.

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I don’t follow or get involved with Beer 52 as a rule

Why would it be added as Beer 52 Nostalgia Osorno when the beer already exists, brewed in the US?

Are they brewing other peoples beers with their own kit now?

Wouldn’t this just be the same beer … what would make it different even if done on their own kit?

This isn’t breeed by the US brewery.

This is a beer that Beer52 commissioned for one of their ‘fake’ breweries. It’s supposed to be a Chiliean beer.

In fact their website refers to Nostalgia as being their new heritage-focuses brand.

right … got ya

just 63 muppets on UT (so far) who have added then rated under the US brewer!

Enjoy … I won’t be !

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I don’t recall the conversation we had about dividing up Scotland as I was focused on handling Wales at the time, but indeed the entire UK is an absolute mess with regards to regions.
I only saw 2 breweries located on the Isle of Arran but have now set both to Ayrshire in line with the places that are already there.

Hopefully this has brought back some consistency but I don’t doubt there may be more errors like this or discrepancies between places and breweries.

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